That's what Amarillo Interim City Manager Terry Childers called the current political atmosphere — and he wasn't talking about Donald and Hillary.
We asked him to the Panhandle PBS Studios to talk about Wise Investments, the city's current public information campaign regarding almost $1 billion in public capital project needs.
But I also asked him why the Amarillo City Council has suspended its efforts to find his permanent replacement, meaning he will stay on for at least the immediate future. Why can't Amarillo attract candidates the council believes can take the reins?
His answer: Some people are tearing this community apart.
To watch my entire conversation with Childers' — including current thinking about potential property tax increases — visit the Panhandle PBS Livestream archive.